Christian Homophobia & Gay Christianity

Christian Homophobia & Gay Christianity

In this video I talk about Christian Homophobia
and Gay Christianity. So if you’re not a bigot or a homophobe,
stay tuned! Hey guys, my name is Justin and I want to
welcome you to That Christian Vlogger, a place where you get to join me and experience “faith
in the first person.” Today I want to talk to you about Christianity
and homophobia. Within the Christian faith there are largely
speaking two main categories when it comes to the issue of homosexuality. One side says that being gay or acting upon
those inclinations is a sin while the other side says that there is nothing wrong with
it. This video is not about who I think is right. This video is about something more important
than that (at least in my opinion it is). You see, I believe that in many cases it matters
more who is acting righteously than who is right. Let that sink in for a moment. It is more important to be righteous, than
right. Here’s what I mean. In that famous chapter on love, Paul writes
about the importance of how we treat other people. We can understand all the prophecies, we can
give away all our money, speak in the tongues of angels and even give our bodies up as a
sacrifice, but as Paul says, “if I have not love, I gain nothing.” To the Christian, that is, to the person who
has fully committed their lives to Christ, the central issue isn’t about who is right
or wrong on a particular doctrine, but how we treat each others. Do we reflect the character of God and do
we love others in the way that God has called us to love? Unfortunately, many times we don’t. Or at least I know I don’t. Not always at least. And in the last few years I’ve met many
people- lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender who have been on the receiving end of that
lack of Christ like love. Earlier this week, Emily and I were doing
coffee with a family member who has been wrestling with this for years. This person is also a subscriber to the channel,
so if you’re watching this right now, hi! Oh, also, don’t worry- I’ll keep your
name confidential to respect your privacy. This person was sharing with me her journey
and the struggles of being someone who identifies within the LGBT community as well as someone
who is honestly seeking after God. Over the last few years, I’ve met more and
more amazingly committed Christians who are homosexual and wrestle so strongly with trying
to feel as though they belong. Unfortunately, their experience by and large
is one of being cast aside and rejected by the very people who claim to love as Christ
loves. And this really pains me to hear. I’ve heard of people being kicked out of
churches or homes with church members and family members saying things like, “you
don’t belong here” or, “God hates you,” or, “I wish you were never born.” I don’t care who you are or what your beliefs
are on the issue of homosexuality- wether you think being gay is fine or if you think
being gay is a sin. This attitude is wrong. This response to people IS sinful. Who are we to kick people out of the church? Who are we to say to tell the very people
whom Christ has died for that they are worthless? If you are someone who has heard this message
from the church- that you are worthless, that you don’t matter, let me apologize on behalf
of the church and emphatically say the opposite. You do matter. God does love you. God see’s in you a precious treasure worth
more than anything in this world. It doesn’t matter if you’re rich or poor,
black or white, male or female, straight or gay, the truth is that God would rather suffer
leave heaven and suffer on the cross than be there in heaven without you. You matter more than anything in the world
to God- and no matter how a pastor or teacher condemns you. No matter how a friend or family member might
disown you- God will never leave or forsake you. So here’s what I want to do. In the next few weeks, I’d like to do a
special vlog on this subject. And I need your help. I will invite one of my very close friends
onto this channel- a friend who happens to be a dedicated Christian as well as an openly
gay man onto this channel. We’re not going to debate and argue about
who’s view is right. (perhaps we’ll do that on another video),
but I want to have the more important conversation. The one that talks about how we can still
be brothers and sisters. How we can unconditionally love each other
without compromising our beliefs and make the church a place where we can all come to
worship God together. So here’s how you can help. I need you to write below some questions that
you would like to ask. If you’re straight and you would like to
ask questions to my gay christian friend you can totally do that. Perhaps you don’t know how to articulate
your viewpoints without coming across judgmental or homophobic. Perhaps you have questions as to why people
are gay? All questions are welcome. Also, if you are a member of the LGBT community
and have questions for the rest of the brethren, I want you to feel free to ask those as well. Perhaps you have questions about why Christians
can be so judgmental or you wonder why this issue is treated so disproportionately when
compared to other issues. If you have any questions or you would like
to share things you wish they would just understand about you please do let me know. If you have something that you’d like to
contribute to the conversation, leave a comment in the youtube comment section or on twitter
with the hashtag #thatchristianvlogger. You can also message me questions or statements
on Facebook or DM me on Instagram. Links to all the socials will be in the description
below. Above all, remember to treat others the way
Christ would treat them. That includes both in person as well as in
the comment section below. It’s totally ok to disagree on this subject
or other subjects for that matter, but let’s not allow our passion to be misguided and
cause us to treat others unchristlike. I look forward to connecting with you all As always, if you’re new to this channel,
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and I want to encourage you to experience “faith in the first person.”

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  1. I love this video as it really urges us not to judge or condemn which is something christians often fail to do when it comes to homosexuality. But I also don't think there is to be an opinion or a choice on the issue as the Bible clearly says (in the old and new testaments) that homosexuality is a sin. God hates it as much as he hates sex outside of marriage or adultery or any other form of sexual immorality. I think the expression "Christian gay" is very contradicting because choosing to be gay is choosing a lifestyle that does not honor God. But someone can be a Christian struggling with homosexuality and asking God's help to not give into temptation. Just like a Christian can struggle with fornication or adultery or pornography but has the strength from God to resist those urges as long as he/she is willing to let God guide their life. But like I said there is no opinion on this issue because God is the authority and he clearly says it in his word. But I do believe that it is wrong to judge or even kick people out of church because we all sin and no one person is better than another. Every one should have the opportunity to hear God's word and decide for themselves if they want to follow him.

  2. God bless you brothet, we as christians we do love gays as jesus taught us to love all people but we cannot accept their thoughts that are against the bible .we can teach them the way and clarify that what the're doing is wrong but we cannot accept their beliefs in oir churches since they influence other people …thankyou😊

  3. I've been told many times that I'm going to hell for being bisexual. Granted, my faith isn't very strong currently, but I go to a Catholic Church, I pray pretty much every night, and I try to pray the rosary at least once a week. My best friend and I are devoted Catholics and we are both bisexual. She and I are good people yet we (or at least I am) are told that we are the worst of the worst. Is it so bad to love? Like I said my faith isn't the strongest and hopefully it'll get better with age but I can't get better when people are telling me it is all hopeless for me.
    There's my tangent. Thanks for reading.

  4. We absolutely need to love people who identify as gay. But loving them doesn't necessarily mean accepting them without acknowledging their sin. 1 Cor. 13 defines love as patient, bearing and enduring all things and not rejoicing with wrongdoing. We have to be considerate of people living a gay lifestyle but that doesn't mean we should be ok with their sin, just as we shouldn't be ok with sin in any fellow believers life. (Matthew 18:15)

  5. You realize that its a sin to be Gay? You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)

  6. Is it not that when you do Right you are Righteous and when you are Righteous you are doing Right?..Is homosexuality a sin?The last time I check Romans,..It is.Are we being judgmental?of course not,it is not a special sin just like we call murder outright as a sin,it is a sin. Do we have to welcome LGBT persons in the church(not the body but the place of worship)Yes of course,specially when they are there to seek GOD.It is our sins that Christ died for including their's.Our duty as christian is to lead them to Christ for them to repent their sins(homosexuality included!) and live a new life as a new man member of the church(the body) free of sins..DO NOT BE DECEIVED, THERE IS NO GAY CHRISTIAN.YOU HAVE TO REPENT AND TURN AWAY FOR BEING GAY TO BE CHRISTIAN.YOU CANNOT BE BOTH.YOU CANNOT CONTINUE THE SIN AND BE CALLED CHRISTIAN…IF YOU ARE REALLY SEEKING GOD, STOP IT…NO COMPROMISE NO SUGAR COATING.

  7. Ah, I love your heart so much. The comments on here pointing out homosexuality is a sin have missed the whole point of the video. Too fixated on the sin instead of the person. This is absolutely amazing and you are spot on. The love of Jesus pours through this video. So good.

  8. I don't understand why people fight over things like this. If someone calls themselves "gay and a Christian" who are we to say that's not possible? That is none of our business. That is God's business. People judging gay Christians are trying to take God's job as a the one and only judge. Like straight Christian is better than gay one? But people don't always get to choose that. I feel like we should be neutral about that. Our job is to love each other, like God told us, not to tell each other you're not a proper Christian because you do this and that. I'm not trying to say we have to accept everything, but two people loving each other regardless the gender are not harming you or your personal relationship with God. It's their own life and they answer to God like all the rest of us.

    Great video btw, I felt the need to comment after reading some of the others.

  9. I just joined your channel like your message. In response to the first comment it needs to be clarified that we love the sinner not the sin

  10. I just Unsubbed you, I watched some of your other videos and you were solid on Scripture. On this subject you jumped ship and did the worst lie we can be… being tolerant of Sin based on Peace and Love. God is Judge just as much as compassionate and forgiving. You avoided the issue of sin, but you were willing to talk about other sins as sin. I agree we are not to be hateful to the person, but we should be concern about the sin, just as we are concern about people who lie a lot, become abusers of alcohol, hating someone, stealing and the many other sins in Scripture. You can show compassion to someone who is struggling with the SIN of Homosexuality (hopefully they did not act on it in mind or physical), but we do not share or show them it is sin then we will be accountable for letting them live as they did when we stand before God. Now with any of your other videos that talk about sin… you will have to teach them with the same view if this is how you feel about Homosexuality. Sorry, I cannot support you… I was excited to see someone speak with such passion, but you will not be a part of my youth groups acceptable Youtubers. I hope you remember to speak truth and not compromise.

  11. Sin is sin no matter if your a Christian or not. The difference is a non believer because the havent been regenerated has blinders on and continues in their sin cause they see no wrong in what they do and they continue down the path of destruction. The Christian sees their sin only because God has chosen to take there blinders off so they can see how offensive their sin is against a Holy God and they are sorry! So they ask for forgiveness REPENTING because they are filthy like dirty rags! They believe in God that he died, was buried and rose again. They die to themselves saying, God YOU are my One and only I am nothing. They turn away from their sin to Jesus remembering He has washed their sins away with His blood when He died on the cross, never to hold it against them again. Remembering they are not goin to be perfect and that Satan will always be there to tempt you to sin again. It just reminds you give God control over it and to continue walking towards Him seeking a relationship with Him every day and ask for forgiveness.There is a difference if we have a real relationship with Him and were studying the bible in context, God made Adam and Eve in the beginning then there was sin (disobedience) and so on and so forth. If its a sin dont continue to live( practice) in it and call yourself a Christian. We are suppose to be Christ like. If anything God doesnt leave His elect stuck in their habitual sins John 8:36 If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. I love all people but if Jesus was on this earth just for a few days what do you think he would say to a person living in sin. We have to hold ourselves as Christians to Gods standers not ours. <3
    . Leviticus 20:13
    If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltiness is upon them. Romans 1:27
    Likewise, the men abandoned natural relations with women and burned with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their error.The most common translation of "repent" is "turn" or "return". Two requisites of repentance included in sub are "to turn from evil, and to turn to the good." Most critical theologically is the idea of returning to God, or turning away from evil. If one turns away from God, apostasy is indicated. Three times Ezekiel included God's call to the people of Israel: "Repent! Turn from your idols and renounce all your detestable practices!" "Repent! Turn away from all your offenses", "Turn! Turn from your evil ways". Such a call was characteristic of the prophets.

    Confession of sins is both commanded and frequently illustrated. When one is guilty of various sins, "he must confess in what way he has sinned" in order to receive atonement and forgiveness. Thus, confession belongs to repentance, and is needed for divine forgiveness. A great prophecy/ promise is given in the Book of Isaiah: "The Redeemer will come to Zion, to those in Jacob who repent of their sins".

    In the New Testament, the key term for repentance is metanoia – It has two usual senses: a "change of mind" and "regret/remorse." In both books of Mark and Matthew Jesus began his public proclamation with the call "Repent." In addition, Paul is said to have preached to both Jews and Gentiles/Greeks to "turn to God in repentance and have faith in our Lord Jesus"

    True repentance leads a person to say, "I have sinned" and prove it with a 180-degree change of their direction.
    Repentance requires true brokenness.
    Repentance is NOT asking the Lord for forgiveness with the intent to sin again.
    Repentance is an honest, regretful acknowledgement of sin with commitment to change.
    Repentance leads us to cultivate godliness while eradicating habits that lead into sin.

  12. Just wanted to add that I agree with the fact that God does love every individual, however even though he may love the person, he does not love what they are doing, which is a Sin. I like what someone wrote before, Christ is the same today, yesterday and forever. So then why would he change what was a Sin before to something that's acceptable.
    I just wanted to leave a bible verse so that we can all hold onto the truth. Romans 1:18-32. I pray that God will help as all, in Jesus name. Amen

  13. LOVE, RIGHTEOUSNESS and SIN need to be defined by Scripture and not by the world. We need to know what the Scriptures say about how to love God and how to love people. His commandments, statutes and judgements tell us how to do all of that.

  14. ThatChristianVolger: We are all God's creation. And He loves us so much that He gave His only Son to die for our sins so we won't have to die. He loves the sinner, but hates the sin. I am not here to bash anyone. Just to tell the truth. And many times when you give truth you are perceived as being judgmental. In fact it is the truth that judges not me. Christ came to save us from our sins, not in our sins (Matthew 1:21). Mark 2:17 tells us: "They that are whole have no need of a physician, but they that are sick: I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance." If you are living in sin, and claim to be a Christian, going to church is not going to help you. If you attend church, or even if you are at home studying your bible, eventually you are supposed to become changed to image of Christ. If you don't change, then Christ is not in you. . If you are living in sin and you love the sin, then you cannot be changed to the righteousness of Christ. The righteousness of Christ means to take on His character. To live a righteous and holy life in Him. "And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect will of God". (Romans 12:2) It's all about the mind. You must allow either Christ or Satan to control the mind. This war is between Christ and Satan. They both want your mind. Which one will you choose. If you love God, you will do all in your power to run from sin. If you love sin then you will do all in your power to run to sin. Satan will let you believe that it is okay to live in sin and still be a Christian. A Christian is a person that believes in Christ and His teachings. No where in the Bible you will find that Jesus taught it is okay to live in sin and still go to heaven. We are all sinners in need of a savior. Be blessed.

  15. If you are gay God still loves you, but he would be sad though. God wants to be fully in you and with you. And gayness is a sin we can’t push that away the Bible states it! If you gay take a second to listen to God. He is yearning for you but as it states in the Bible sin separates you from God, and if your gay and want to be with god god feels the same. So if you really want to be with God and have the Sun in you you gonna have to drop homosexually. It’s hard but God loves you and in Gods power you can do anything. So I believe in those people to make the change I’m praying for you. AS WELL AS GOD

  16. I struggle being a gay man and trying to be a Christian. Growing up i was told I'll go to hell. I was disowned by family and told by church I can't be who I am. I spent my entire life fighting it. It's weird no matter how much I fight it and pray the gay away my thoughts and feelings never change. I belonged to a Christian group to become straight at one time as well. I never felt so horrible. It has destroyed my entire life. I got into drugs to numb things. I got mixed with the wrong people. I would have killed myself a long time ago but I fear what if God's real. I hate feeling I'm living a bad life. It's lonely. I don't understand I prayed for years please make me think differently and nothing changes. I put my entire heart and soul into it and nothing changes. I get mad at religion for making the battle inside of me. My best friend died while fighting the same battle. Just horrible. I feel like God is calling to me yet I feel dirty and ashamed. Then I just want to end my life yet I'm scared to because of the unknown of what happens if I do.

  17. 1co 5:1 It is reported commonly [that there is] fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
    5:2 And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.

    The most dangerous thing is to think that it does not matter because all the sins are same anyway. Not all sins are same. Homosexuality is the essence of Satan.
    When I had a false belief in the Pentecostal Church, when I was obsessed with devils, I saw the illusion of a bunch of homosexuals having sex in groups. That was "wickedness." That is the essence of Satan. And the devil tried to deceive me about God's gender.
    Historically, gender issues were important to Christians, There's an important reason here. Homosexuality is 'wickedness' itself, like incest and animal sex. But gender issues are even more significant.
    If anyone who admits homosexuality is a sin and tries to fix it, we can never tell them badly. But when they do not recognize it, we can not register them as Church Members. Still they can come to church. But you need to keep watching them and steadily help them turn their thoughts. The values ​​they think should not affect the values ​​of the church.

  18. I understand we need to love and apply I Corinthians chapter 13 but whatever happened to the rest of the Bible do you ever read the front of the book? So now God has to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah? So now it's legalistic to keep his word, to obey his law? Jesus said if you love me keep my Commandments.
    Many of you will say well the greatest commandment is love we must love. And I totally agree. Nevertheless, was God hateful or loving when he destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Was he being homophobic? was he being a bigot? So now those that stand for the truth are going to be labeled homophobic, bigots, unloving and hateful. That's part of the brainwash by mainstream media and the church has bought it Hook Line & Sinker. What you're teaching is a mixture of Truth and error and many will fall for it. Satan is very clever, those who are awake will see through it those who are asleep will not.

    If the homosexuals who say they're Christians are feeling uncomfortable maybe that's the Holy Spirit convicting them to come out of that lifestyle but oh no know we got to comfort them and make them feel comfortable in their lifestyle. Come as you are and stay as you are? I Believe come as you are but don't stay that way. That's what God's word teaches.

  19. If anyone is still in this comment section here in 2018, I really need someone to talk to. I'm a bisexual Christian, and these awful comments are starting to get to me. I feel like an outcast, a mistake, a sin. I feel like who I am is wrong, and that I shouldn't exist. I feel like I'll never know the real truth about what God wants me to do, and that worries me greatly.

  20. Wow, this is very very pandering. And to not mention the it is a sin? What are you afraid of? It does matter who's right. The truth sets you free, not immoral lifestyles. There is a difference between embracing sin (accepting your homosexual) and struggling with desires. False teacher

  21. I think what prophet Isaiah said will come true in this generations lifetime.. " Babylon, the jewel of kingdoms, the pride and glory of the Babylonians, will be overthrown by God like Sodom and Gomorrah"

    Or revelations on babylon – For all the nations have drunk the maddening wine of her adulteries. The kings of the earth committed adultery with her, and the merchants of the earth grew rich from her excessive luxuries."

    Or of lukewarm Christians – I know your deeds, that you are neither cold nor hot. I wish you were either one or the other! So, because you are lukewarm–neither hot nor cold–I am about to spit you out of my mouth.

    I think we all have to look at ourselves and start taking this a lot more serious . Let's focus on reality here, America is clearly babylon, the nation of fornication and riches and beast system, is houses the richest people in the world, and we are worrying about these little petty things … I'm telling you the picture is way bigger here.. The judgement is coming fast

  22. I truly believe I have Christ's love in my heart for homosexuals, but if believing what the inspired-by-the true and loving God says about this and other matters, through the Apostle Paul makes me a homophobe, then I guess that makes me not only a homophobe, but also a liarphobe, an adultererphobe, a gluttonphobe, a sluggardphobe, a rageaholicphobe, and a phobic of all kinds of things of which the Apostle Paul was, also, by the "new church's" (my title) definition, phobic. In fact, I would be phobic of myself, for I struggle with some of these things.
    Seriously, you use I Cor. 13, written by Paul, to justify your stance, but of necessity either ignore or redefine the Church's nearly 2000 year understanding of Paul in Romans 1, etc. if you TRULY love a person, you will call them to what the Bible calls us to.
    Of course we should love sinners, regardless of who they are. And Christians who are struggling with homosexual desires or sin need mountains of love, encouragement, understanding, and acceptance. We need to throw our arms around them, and LOOOVE them. But "openly gay Christian" is like "openly slave-trading abolitionist". If someone said "I'm an openly adulterous Christian, and you can't judge me.", does that make it so? They would be defiantly rebellious against God, not striving for holiness. I suspect many commentators here don't know their Bibles, but I suspect you know it pretty well. Paul said of certain willfully disobedient "Christians", to not even eat with such a one. So, who do we follow? You, or Paul? I'm going with Paul.
    And in the days, months and years to come, I suspect that those who believe Paul meant what he said, will have far worse things done to them than just being labeled "homophobes".

  23. Oh my. I just read your reply to someone that would seem to indicate that those disagree with you by believing Paul in the entirety of his teaching – hate you. I emphatically disagree with some of what you say. But I really do love you, and your openly homosexual friend, with Christ's love. And a very vital reason this is a unique issue, is that the LGBTQ movement's agenda has as it's goal the absolute eradication of Christian expression, and freedom of religion. I'm 56, have seen how this issue has progressed, and it is in no way alarmist to predict real persecution even from "Christians" because they choose what FEELS right to them, over the plain truth of the Bible.

  24. TRUTH set free, not love. Yes, we are called to walk in love AND tell the TRUTH in love. Homosexuality is part of sexual immorality and it is sin. It is not worse than being a pornography addict, fornication and so forth. Notice that I'm saying this in love because we are all responsible to one another. One cannot claim to love God and continue knowingly to walk in sin. God love language is obedience. How do you know you love God? You obey him. How can you CONTINUE to be an homosexual and claim to love God??? We all stumble (occasionally) in sin because we are also flesh, but walk in a known sin and confort yourself in it, is despicable to the Lord. I do not hate homosexuals but I hate homosexuality. As true follower of Christ we have power (Grace) to overcome sin. God bless you all.

  25. In short, from my intense study on the subject, I am convinced that all of the same-sex passages in the Bible pertain to abusive sexual practices: gang rape, idolatry, pederasty (a type of pedophilia), etc. Please note that all of these would be equally as sinful if they were heterosexual in nature. We don’t see the “attack on gays” until the 3rd or 4th century (long after the Biblical passages were written). Thus the perspective people had about gays in the 1st century is paramount to accurately understanding Romans 1, I Cor 6:9, and I Tim 1:10. From what I have studied, there was a LOT more homosexual activity going on in the first century than even today! Even then, such homosexual activity in and of itself was not considered bad by any of the biblical writers. Yet the abusive forms of such were bad – and thus Paul wrote what he wrote.

    I didn't just read some books to come to this conclusion, I traveled thousands of miles and researched in old archives, learned Greek and Hebrew at a master's degree level, and spent YEARS studying in order to really seek to understand what God intended from these "gay passages". I am serious about this because I learned that we have seen the largest amount of teen and young adult suicide in the past few decades – and guess what corresponds to that – the word "homosexual" wasn't even in the Bible until 1946, just a few decades ago. Keep in mind that before the King James Bible (1611), Lev 18:22 and 20:13 in the German Bible said "man shall not lie with little boys as he does with a woman…" THUS pederasty (NOT homosexuality) was considered the sin in these verses as well as I Cor 6:9 and I Tim1:10.

    When studying passages in the Bible, we need to take into account the original author and audience, as well as the cultural context of the day. After all, we are separated by language, culture, and 2000+ years. Thus a deep dive into the Hebrew and Greek texts is essential. It is also important to understand history (looking at the past 3000 years), as well as psychology, politics, and science. Yes, even science! After all, it took science to teach us that the earth revolved around the sun and not the other way around – which appeared to be contradictory to Scripture, thus causing some to be imprisoned by the Church.

    There are some YouTube videos I would recommend to get started. Dr. David Gushee: Ending the Teaching of Contempt against the Church’s Sexual Minorities. And Kathy Baldock: Untangling the Mess.

    God bless you!

  26. Sometimes is not being a bigot or homophobic it’s called following the bible, doesn’t mean you need to judge anyone.

  27. Honestly the world would just become a better place if all religion was banned. It’s old fashioned, it’s destructive and causes wars and there’s nothing about any religion that’s true. It’s scientifically proven that we descend from apes, not that some man in the sky created us 😆. It’s just dumb.

  28. I know what the bible says. I know what the spirit convicts me off. I was christian before i knew that i was homosexual and or bisexual. I know that the bible says to refrain from sin to flee sin. God Hates sin so how can we love anything that God hates. Straight people can refrain from sexual intercourse until marriage. I can refrain from sexual intercourse with a women. I can not change how my attraction to women. You can be straight and try to refrain from intercourse nd slip up ask for forgiveness. You guys have an end goal its when you get married. I have no end goal so i live my whole life trying just like any other Christian trying to refrain from sin. We all will fall short when it comes to trying to walk righteously. I dont think gay marriage is condoned by God. That is something that hurts me but i must obey. Even if i tried to have a relationship with a women i would feel uneasy because i know my conviction yoh cant ignore them. And if i tried it just drives a wedge between me and God. Just like any other sin. Man its a everyday battle for us just like any other sinner because thats what we all are. God loves us all. And wants our walk with him to be Joyful. Prayer thats the only way i can keep on the straight path.

  29. here's what i think… gna be long, but I really want to share my views on this as someone who loves God. im sry if I sound angry but the caps are supposed to be emphasis… oops.

    firstly, i do not believe God wants us to be homosexual. already from the start, he created man AND woman. if he had no problems with homosexuality, then why did he just create one gender? why must a baby only be borne through a male and female? i believe God has a reason for EVERYTHING, and even if you may not know the reason now, you should just trust him. trust God not because of your circumstances or the situation you are in, but becuase of who God is.

    in my opinion God didn't just make everyone straight bc He wanted to give us freewill (there was a verse in proverbs that mentioned how great kings ruled with love, while foolish kings ruled with fear). and that freewill comes in the form of choosing your sexuality. let me recall a 1 Corinthians 13: which describes how perfect love is. now THIS is the love he expects. lust does NOT equal to love. in summary, the options God had gave to you was bc He wanted you to choose to obey his commandments OVER your "feelings". He wants your love for him to overwhelm your lust for another human. He wants you to choose Him.

    now one more thing I want to point out: the rainbow used to symbolize LGBT. God had alr mentioned how rainbows are symbolic to his promise; his promise that everything will be over so just continue trusting in Him. this is another reason why im a little upset over christians whom say they love God but support the LGBT, why haven't they seen that the rainbow, a promise of God, is used to support smth God is against? sadly ironic…

    I apologise if I hv hurt anyone. i just really hope to clear some confusion as I have been thru this so many times, and I hope you guys can also make the decision to choose God and trust Him and His reasons… atb in your journey with christ:)

  30. committed Christian and homosexual incompatible. If you love me then you will keep my commandments. Jesus words. Sodomism is a Sin and must be repented of and rejected. You should speak the truth to your gay friend he love. We mustn,t fellowship with people who openly reject the truth of scripture.

  31. 18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
    19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
    20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
    21 Because that, when they knew God, they glorified him not as God, neither were thankful; but became vain in their imaginations, and their foolish heart was darkened.
    22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools,
    23 And changed the glory of the uncorruptible God into an image made like to corruptible man, and to birds, and fourfooted beasts, and creeping things.
    24 Wherefore God also gave them up to uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their own bodies between themselves:
    25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.
    26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
    27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
    28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
    29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers,
    30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
    31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
    32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
    King James Version (KJV)

  32. i gonna say this if Jesus says to love that person as christian we should love them who they are and we are to judge a person Jesus says love the people like i love you we don't have judges what says in the bible relate to homosexuality but we need to look at them as human being help a person who is fallen

  33. Yes God loves all people even if your gay, You are very precious to him and he wants you to be saved. He also doesn't want his people to judge those that need help. He wants us to love everyone. But God does not love sin and no one should be sinning even if it is a small lie. All commandments stand true for all of us today. If you have the Holy spirit you are less likely to sin and God will reveal the truth to you, he will open your eyes. Many people don't really want to know the truth, because they will see their sins.

  34. Not sure if it's been referenced in any of your videos. But this passage has been on my heart for the church in regards to the treatment of the Gay issue.

    James 2: 8-10: "If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well;but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by the law as transgressors.For whoever shall keep the whole law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all. – James 2:8-10"

    The two points of this passage are this.

    1. As Christians to show partiality (defined as preferring one person(s) over another) is a sin. This means preferring other Christians over LGBTQ people, or over murderers, liars or other religious people. Because we have failed in Christ's commandment to love others as ourselves.

    Point #2. In verse 10, it specifically states, if we fail even one point of the law (10 commandments, since Lavitical laws we're specifically for Israel alone Leviticus 26:46) then we are guilty of failing it as a whole. If you disobeyed your parents, you lied, or bore false witnesses against a neighbor, you are just as guilty as committing murder, rape etc. This points out that there are NO sins that are greater or worse than any other. They are all the same level of bad. I go one further, there is no sin so great that there cannot be forgiveness or salvation save for one. That one can't be committed by an unbeliever, and that is the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit.

    That is the heart of God. Today's condemnation of the gay community puts the church in the same position as the condemned Pharasees of Jesus' time.

    We all sin on a daily basis. Whether lies or disobedience. We cannot condemn and say they have to change when we cannot and do not.

    My question is to those who believe that gay relationships are unnatural, tell me why then do we have natural gay relationships in animals, created by God? His creation shows for His glory. Penguins in gay relationships take on orphans. There are many more examples. But God said He would protect orphans, to me this is just one way He does so, that they feel loved and part of family.

  35. If you truly love someone – you need to tell them the good news of the gospel which says that you must confess and change. Yes God loves you , yes God wants a relationship with you – he sent his son for you . But he loves you enough to change you and make you more like him. His word says homosexuality is an abomination. I love gay people and have gay friends but if you truly love someone you need to tell them that the way they are living is offensive to God their creator.

  36. See We all have fallen short of the glory of God correct , see being a christian your either at war with your sin or your willfully sinning , so if your homosexual and your heart dosent wanna be homosexual anymore than you have a repentent heart and really want to change yes thats okay but if your homosexual and in no way are trying to flee that then your at risk of judgement , like me i deal with lust of the flesh but im fighting to get this stronghold off of me

  37. Hi Justin,
    I stumbled on your YouTube Channel trying to find an easier way to read God's Word. I am 54 so feel kinda um, old since your videos are more for younger Christians. Which is Awesome! I wish we had more Videos like this when I was in my 20's.

  38. I just wanted to share something with you though. As Believers, you are SO ON POINT, we are to love ALL people. Jesus does but he also loves them SO MUCH that not warning them about the judgement against Sin, would be an act of Hatred.

  39. I urge you to say the Truth regarding ANY Sin, adultery, stealing, Fornication, Etc…If we do not LOVINGLY warn other Believers that Sin leads to Death, how can we truly love them? How can we watch someone we claim to love, walk into a Burning House without warning them?
    God holds ALL OF US accountable individually when we fail to warn others. I have failed MANY times in my 54 years on this Earth. I did not want to cause waves.
    Look at the Matrys of our Faith. .many were put to Death, Beheaded for warning about Adultery, etc…
    One passage that stuck with me like glue:
    1 Corr 6:9
    Nor Adulterer, nor Fornicator, nor Liar, Nor Thief will enter in the Kingdom of Heaven.
    I urge you to reconsider your View on Truth. God does not mix Words…because there is a clear line that will Separate us Forever from Him if we continue to Cross it.
    I thank you for taking the time to read this

  40. You can't be a sodomite and be a Christian, just like you can't be a fornicator and be a Christian or a thief and be a Christian or covetousness and be a Christian…there's no such thing, if you are a thief you can not be a Christian, but if you repent of these things you can be saved…you need to repent, of your sins, sodomy is a sin according to scripture I would rather obey scripture and its teachings about a subject then what somebody might say is okay to do and be saved the wages of sin is death for all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God homosexuality is a sin according to the biblical standards of the Bible… Romans 1:25-28

  41. I hate how Justin starts off saying "if you're not a bigot or a homophobe stay tuned", as if saying the truth about how being gay is wrong. Homophobic (which is a wrong term to call people that hate homosexuality), is simply the right thing to be according to scripture. God hates sin therefore so should we.

    1 Cor. 6:9-11 doesn't just talk about homosexuality being bad, but other sins that even straight people do and do we not call those sins bad??? Do we not hate idolatry or fornication and adultery, thievery, covetousness, etc.??? They're all in the same bag so why is it that we're supposed to accept homosexuality and not all the others???

  42. The original Christians were gay tho. Lol. King James was proven to be homosexual. 😄 the man had secret chambers and tunnels connecting his room to those of his lovers.

  43. I am still learning how to understand the bible I pray and think about it everday . It's so many different teaching it can become confusing so I just pray about hear ing the word from Jesus by reading the bible.
    I am a sinner! I have one question ?

    Why do we as a people always think we have the right to Judge anything or anyone my self include If we are truly following God's word. I guess this is what I am still asking for forgiveness for
    And will continue to reading the bible. I am a sinner a pray to God to hear his word and love every day of my life.

  44. Justin,

    I want to personally thank you for extending grace to those who’ve felt marginalized. I’ve struggled for years with my sexual identity and what I’ve come to realize is that although I’d love to affirm my bisexuality, what is more important is to feel God’s peace and reconciliation.

    Christians have tried to help, but their good intentions haven’t always superseded the fear, discomfort, and homophobia implicit or even explicit in their attitudes. I’ve been very criticized and judged, even when I wasn’t acting on my desires… Even people like you, who are trying to create a safer space for sexual minorities, experience backlash from Christians. This has been one thing that’s moved me away from what I’ve been brought up with. People seem to hold on more to their dogma than to recognizing how limiting their beliefs can be. And it’s very discouraging to see people limiting LGBT access to God’s kingdom. Isn’t there a passage where Jesus says that the Pharisees do this?

    Although I don’t know how to solve this dilemma, and although I definitely have my own baggage to deal with, I’m feeling like God is calling me to a space where justice and grace reign. Where truth is embraced and mercy triumphs over judgement.

  45. I love your view on this so much!! I haven’t studied the bible so don’t know enough about the bible to back this up but I get so frustrated that people at church are so judgemental to the point of saying quite nasty things about people who they consider sinners – I wish they would spend more time caring about other people less time talking about how bad people are.

  46. The bible is very clear on the subject of homosexuality:

    1 Corinthians 6:9 have ye not known that the unrighteous the reign of God shall not inherit? be not led astray; neither whoremongers, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor arsenokoitai

    1 Timothy 1:9-10 having known this, that for a righteous man law is not set, but for lawless and insubordinate persons, ungodly and sinners, impious and profane, parricides and matricides, men-slayers, whoremongers, arsenokoitai, men-stealers, liars, perjured persons, and if there be any other thing that to sound doctrine is adverse

    Leviticus 18:22 And with a male thou dost not lie as one lieth with a woman; abomination it is.

    Leviticus 20:13 And a man who lieth with a male as one lieth with a woman; abomination both of them have done; they are certainly put to death; their blood is on them.

    Romans 1:27 and in like manner also the males having left the natural use of the female, did burn in their longing toward one another; males with males working shame, and the recompense of their error that was fit, in themselves receiving.

    Arseno(Male)+Koitai(Bed) "Koitai implies Lying down hence reference to Leviticus"

    -Koitai is the origin of the modern term coitus meaning sexual intercourse

    Some ask "why didn't Shaul use any of the already existing words rather then make up a word. All of the words were too specific and he wanted an umbrella term to include the sin of homosexuality in all its forms. The two words were also used together in the septuagint version of Leviticus 18:22, though not in the combined form. Proving that arsenokoitai is a reference to the Old Testament verse. On top of this most of the words were completely inappropriate to use in polite conversation. One such word, lakkoproktoi, literally means "rear(Butt) cistern". Then there's Euryproktoi meaning "wide rectum" it refers to people who cross dress. Paideraste literally means "Children Lover" so it doesn't fit. Don't fool yourselves into thinking it isn't a sin!

    Repent and be Saved!

  47. One thing that I don’t like about homophobic Christians is that homosexuality is an abomination. Because God also said that eating shrimp is and abomination. And he also said not to cut your hair. But guess what, they still do that. And guess what else, both of those are from Leviticus as well. I am a proud Christian who is bisexual, and God made me this way. And for another Christian to say that I’m choosing this way and pushing God away, I’m not. God still loves me and will never, ever love me any less or any more and he will never forsake me.

  48. @ThatChristianVlogger We should always treat people with kindness and love including people who are homosexual however if someone is practicing homosexuality then biblically shouldn't there brothers and sisters in christ treat it as anyone else compromising and living in sin? I've always referred back to Matthew 18: 15-17 in respect to this which clearly states that the church should not allow compromise in the case of regular sin. That being said I do understand the difficulty in this area I have many homosexual relatives and it is hard to see why it is wrong however we are called to put our faith in God's word. Would love to hear anybody else's interpretation of this verse in this context.

  49. This is why the world refuses to repent and believe upon Jesus Christ, y'all watered down Christianity years ago and by doing so the words Jesus Christ prophecied have come to pass, they will call good evil and evil good.

  50. Leviticus 18: 22 (ERV) " Men, you should not have sexual relations with another man as with a woman. That is a terrible sin! " It's not good to call yourself a Christian and then pick and choose which part of the Bible you want to believe in. This video is misleading and I thought ThatChristianVlogger would have thoroughly read and understood the bible before feeding Christians with false information. There's no such thing as a gay Christian unless you don't believe in the bible then we'll know that you're just gay. You are either a Christian and heterosexual or you're not a Christian and you are gay. You can't be both and say God is okay with it. God thinks of homosexuality as a sin, just as much as lying, stealing, adultery and so on.

    Romans 1: 26 – 27 "Because people did those things, God left them do the shameful things they wanted to do. Women stopped having natural sex with men and started having natural sex with women and began wanting each other and the time. Men did shameful things with other men, and in their bodies they received the punishment for those wrongs."

  51. A straight man can only bring a straight man to Christ while a gay man can only bring a gay man to Christ. I think it's better that way because straight people have the lack of understanding why gay people exist. God made gay people for a reason and that is to tell their testimony about their life. The world has to know since God is a kind of a guy who likes to punch people's eggshell, pour their yolk out, squeeze it like lemon as the juice from the yolk, rains down like water to tell the whole world how stinky we really are.

    God puts shame on man to embarrass us in front of the whole world since He is our mom and dad that made us here. Also, God is hard to get angry. You can't even find his secret red button since only Satan knows it.

  52. The oppressors and persecutors will be oppress by God in some Sicario movie. To get humans on a straight path is going to be as hard as the Sicario movie and Soldado movie. I believe it's going to be ugly when God comes down to change humanity since it's going to be tough.

  53. @ThatChristianVlogger, thank you for your video although I feel a little disappointed that you danced around the main topic and never really addressed it. Nevertheless, I'd like to point out that although the Church is not what it is supposed to be, however, please go to the letters to the Corinthians where Paul rebukes the Church there for allowing someone to worship while also live in sin. He said by removing him from the congregation, that man's soul would be saved (because you cannot lose your salvation) but his body would perish in the sin he has chosen to live in.

    The sort of Christianity that is too afraid to address strong topics is no Christianity at all. The sort of Christianity that takes 1 Corinthians 13 out of context and says we should love everyone and speak nothing of sin, of condemnation, of judgement is no Christianity at all. The sort of Christianity that causes no offence is no Christianity at all. It's not because we WANT to offend people, but because truth, by definition, will offend those who live contrary to it.

    When Jesus came to earth, He caused a lot of problems for those who believed that they were living right when they were only hypocrites. They tried to kill him on many occasions and finally succeeded when it was His time. You really think what Jesus did was walk around and tell people, "Please, don't offend one another. I apologise on behalf of anyone who offended you"?

    May God forgive us and have mercy on us for taking His word and His commandments so lightly.

    Ezekiel 33:8 says, "When I say to the wicked, ‘O wicked man, you will surely die,’ and you do not speak to warn the wicked from his way, that wicked man shall die in his iniquity, but his blood I will require from your hand."

    When you choose not to warn the wicked, you are purposely turning your back to God and saying, "Nope, I will not warn them. I won't offend them." Their souls will perish because of you and there will be a day of reckoning.

    I agree with you, we shouldn't desire to offend but the opposite is just as dangerous, when we turn a blind eye to the Word of God and say, "Oh, but I'm being so lovely and loving." May we wake up before it's too late and God says to us, "Get away from Me you workers of iniquity. I never knew you."

  54. Love is all that matters for God is love. But if you are struggling with this then draw closer to God whole heartedly and He will open your eyes to see what you haven't been seeing ❤

  55. The difference between homosexuality and other sins is that while others accept that they are wrong and don't even brag about it, they try to work out their salvation in the place of prayer. But no, homosexuality should be accepted, pampered and condoned because??? Sin is sin, instead of trying to make the whole body of Christ accept it, which will never happen. Work on it..pray about it and ask God 4giveness. But the first step is accepting that it is sin period.

  56. You can't deny that the Bible says homosexuals won't go to heaven. Instead of focusing so much on your sexuality and trying to protect and defend it, focus on yourself and the relationship you have with God because you're so much more than your sexuality . In time, you'll find that all those chains are broken because those are chains . It takes time but trying to hold on to that and making it a part of who you are is gonna stop you (you stop yourself) from being completely set free .

  57. Amen Justin from a gay Christian man who has been struggling with this very topic his whole life. I've got a few years on you, but I have to tell you that you have a gentle wisdom about you that is so refreshing and I am so glad that I stumbled upon your channel . I am now a subscriber. God bless you for your kindness and for helping to spread the bottom line message that Jesus wants us to live by… LOVE!

  58. Please we don't need sugar coated Christianity . Yes we should love each others but the Bible never support homosexuality . Read the scriptures

    " And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."
    (Romans 1: 27)

  59. My Christian brother you have been decieved, we are not called to be enabelers of sexual immorality . We are not supposed to approve of anything that God calls an Abomination. But instead we are told to " Flee from sexual immorality"
    1 Corinthians 6:12-19 English Standard Version (ESV)

    Flee Sexual Immorality
    12 “All things are lawful for me,” but not all things are helpful. “All things are lawful for me,” but I will not be dominated by anything.13 “Food is meant for the stomach and the stomach for food”—and God will destroy both one and the other. The body is not meant for sexual immorality, but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. 14 And God raised the Lord and will also raise us up by his power. 15 Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ? Shall I then take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Never! 16 Or do you not know that he who is joined[a] to a prostitute becomes one body with her? For, as it is written, “The two will become one flesh.” 17 But he who is joined to the Lord becomes one spirit with him. 18 Flee from sexual immorality. Every other sin[b] a person commits is outside the body, but the sexually immoral person sins against his own body. 19 Or do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit within you, whom you have from God? You are not your own,

    Corithians   6:9Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.

    Leviticus 20:13 (KJV) If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

    I am not homophobic, but i am versed in the word of God and the teachings of the Scriptures on this subject. There is no place in the Bible that indorces Homosexuality, either between women or men. If you can show me one scripture that says other wise then I will retract how I feel about this issue. 

    Have you not seen whats going on around you since this nation has embraced the so called "normalcy" of homosexuality. I think that all homosexuals need to be in a church so they can get the truth into their hearts. I believe that God does not want them to go to hell, but in the scriptures above they are destined to go there, of course along with all the others as well. 

            Truth hurts, and it is there so that folks are made aware of their wrongs. As Gods word also says " the truth will set you free". I do not condemn homosexuals, they condemn themselves. They are doing wrong, but they can indeed be saved, that is if they believe in jesus and repent of their sins, and never return to that way of life again. They will then be going to heaven with the saints. Jesus was the great physician that is why he hun around the kinds of people he did. They were sick and needed a doctor, he didnt tell them that what they were doing was good for them. Nope he told them everything they had been doing wrong. 

    Example: John 8 Jesus Delivers the Adulterous Woman

    1Jesus went unto the mount of Olives. 2And early in the morning he came again into the temple, and all the people came unto him; and he sat down, and taught them. 3And the scribes and Pharisees brought unto him a woman taken in adultery; and when they had set her in the midst, 4They say unto him, Master, this woman was taken in adultery, in the very act. 5Now Moses in the law commanded us, that such should be stoned: but what sayest thou? 6This they said, tempting him, that they might have to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground, as though he heard them not. 7So when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. 8And again he stooped down, and wrote on the ground. 9And they which heard it, being convicted by their own conscience, went out one by one, beginning at the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman standing in the midst. 10When Jesus had lifted up himself, and saw none but the woman, he said unto her, Woman, where are those thine accusers? hath no man condemned thee? 11She said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said unto her, Neither do I condemn thee: go, and sin no more.

    The Truth will Set You Free

    (2 John 1:4-6)

    31Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed; 32And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. 33They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

    34Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin. 35And the servant abideth not in the house for ever: but the Son abideth ever. 36If the Son therefore shall make you free, ye shall be free indeed. 37I know that ye are Abraham's seed; but ye seek to kill me, because my word hath no place in you. 38I speak that which I have seen with my Father: and ye do that which ye have seen with your father.

    39They answered and said unto him, Abraham is our father. Jesus saith unto them, If ye were Abraham's children, ye would do the works of Abraham. 40But now ye seek to kill me, a man that hath told you the truth, which I have heard of God: this did not Abraham. 41Ye do the deeds of your father. Then said they to him, We be not born of fornication; we have one Father, even God.

    The Children of the Devil
    42Jesus said unto them, If God were your Father, ye would love me: for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. 43Why do ye not understand my speech? even because ye cannot hear my word. 44Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it. 45And because I tell you the truth, ye believe me not. 46Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the truth, why do ye not believe me? 47He that is of God heareth God's words: ye therefore hear them not, because ye are not of God.

    A christian is supposed to speak the truth, not coddle or condone sinners. I would ask you to think about this for just one moment. What if you have a homosexual come to you, who is seeking the truth, guidance as to how to become a Christian. And you tell them come as you are , Jesus loves you just as you are, you neednt worry about your sexual immorality because thats not a issue with God. Where in Gods word would you point to them that homosexuality is not a sin, you would find out that there is none. throughout the whole of the scriptures there was and never will be one word that condones homosexuality, except in the eyes and hearts of men !!!

    It is not wrong to make judgements, the bible doesnt say that but it does say this !!!

    Matthew 7:1-5

    Judging Others
    1 “Do not judge, or you too will be judged. 2 For in the same way you judge others, you will be judged, and with the measure you use, it will be measured to you. 
    In other words do not be a hypocrite. 

    1 Corinthians 6:3-4 New International Version (NIV)

    3 Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life! 4 Therefore, if you have disputes about such matters, do you ask for a ruling from those whose way of life is scorned in the church? And homosexuality is scorned and deservedly so.

  60. If you're truly saved you're born again, youre a new creature but if youre the same person then how are you born again?

  61. Man, that is so true. I am actually a preacher/teacher/youth leader and I started a new job not too long ago. Once they found that out about me, they just gave me a heads up that one of the workers was gay. It’s interesting that they didn’t give me a heads up that four or five workers were sleeping with people they were not married to. That didn’t seem like a big deal. It definitely is treated differently than other sin. Great message man, keep doing what you do. 👍

  62. I m deeply touched by your msg.i am gay.nd i born in christian home where i m facing all sort of discrimination nd hate.i even want to renounce christianity all together.but your message is like an onitment on my deeply hurted wound.i m in so much pain.and the way christians people treat us is very harsh.thats why i never ever wanted to be one.

  63. Very loving. But at least for me, I love all people. Sin is sin. No matter if theft, adultery, fornication etc. We are to love people but always speak truth. Jesus loved the adulterous woman but told her "go and sin no more." It is not Christians who decide what sin is, but the Lord as clearly laid out in the Bible.
    Homosexuality is a sin. Gluttony is a sin. Fornication is a sin. We should love all, point them to Jesus and pray for them.
    Christians get upset because there are those who out of fear, or apostasy try and side step truth. We can and should love, respect and care about all. But we must never forget righteousness is not love only. It is turning away from sin in a new direction by the power of the Holy Spirit. ❤

  64. I’ve experienced hearing of a church member kicked out for being disruptive. This relates to this topic of LGBT as once their sexuality becomes known people fear it’s contagious and worry about the example it sets. Do you think there should be a separate part in the church for those who disrupt a church service? And who should teach quietness in a church service and how should it be taught? I’ve found that keeping a distance is essential at times or people might be manipulating for money to the point that it hurts the person offering as Christ would. Let me know if your thoughts or how you personally would handle that type of friend who needs more help than you can give. I know these are two issues but both relate to inclusion and inclusiveness…

  65. I am a new Christian (at 60 years old) and I always recoiled from the viewpoint that the gay person was going to hell. Hearing Justin was cleansing. Someone else commented that sex for most of us is a trigger and it trouble us.
    Justin thanks for further cementing my position as a new Christian. You speak of a faith and fellowship that I strongly want to be a part of.

  66. I realize this will not be popular, nevertheless, it must be conveyed. I will be a gentle as I can muster on this subject.

    As a minister, I am required to preach the whole council of God, yet do it with the spirit in which Christ walked on this earth. Christ always spoke to those He was in front of at the level in which they were educated, so to speak. Meaning. if He was talking to a Pharisee, He spoke of the deeper and more weighty things of God, while speaking with one who was not as educated (again, so to speak) so they would understand.

    There were times Christ was particularly stern with them – thinking of the washing of the hand before eating when His disciples were starving and picked so food to eat – they were criticized by the Pharisees for not washing before they began eating. Jesus was pretty stern with them for not having compassion.

    Others, like the woman caught in adultery, He was very soft spoken to her with very specific instruction…Christ said to her, "Neither do I condemn thee, go and sin no more." Christ balanced compassion and the Law, which required, death by stoning to this woman for the adulterous act/sin.

    The law required witnesses to condemn, none were present to condemn her, yet Christ instructed her on how she was to live the rest of her days…"go and sin no more." Of course we know she would sin again (we don't know about this particular sin), but specifically, Christ said to her, this is a sin, I'm telling you its a sin, therefore, don't do it anymore.

    My point, we are all sinners and no sin is greater than another sin. We should be charitable to all, but we cannot have 'fellowship' with those who are actively pursuing that which the scriptures defines as a sin, yea, even an abomination to God. Eph_5:11  And have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness, but rather reprove them. This verse is not saying one should purposefully do harm in anyway to a person who has chosen a homosexual ( or any perpetuating sin) lifestyle. It doesn't mean we have to ostracize them either, but it does say, "…have no fellowship with the unfruitful works of darkness…" This, I believe is a church relationship. Sure, we can convey, lovingly, that lifestyle goes against the scriptures. God does not approve of the lifestyle, I did not say person…for Christ disapproved of the lifestyle of the adulterous woman and not the woman. We should strive to be the same. Speak the truth but speak it with compassion. If the one being spoken to in compassion and the truth gets offended, that's on them. It happened to the Pharisees all the time, yet Christ didn't stop speaking truth to them.

    Homosexuality, no matter the label placed on it today, is a sin, thus saith the Lord, The sin can and must be condemned without condemning the person.

  67. There is no such such as a Gay Christian. The very definition of Christian is, "Christ like." Jesus was not gay and the message was clear to love your neighbor and not the sin. We have had multiple people be delivered from homosexuality in our church. People who try to argue claim that they were born that way miss the point. The whole point in becoming a christian is to be changed as the Bible says you are a new creature (2 Corinthians 5:17). If you claim you were born that way and say you are a christian you are not as you are not changed. You must deny all sin and repent and be baptized and receive the Holy Ghost (Acts 2:38). Only God can change us and it doesn't mean you repeat a sinners prayer and show up for church and you are magically a christian because you say so. I can recite the sinners prayer all day and not be changed if there is no conviction or repentance. It is a process and a relationship with God 7 days a week and not just Sundays. Its like you saying you and music star "x" are best friends. You might go to every concert they have, buy every song and album, have their pictures/posters all over your house, but if you never have regular conversations with them how do they know you? So if you have no relationship God will say He never knew you in judgement despite you going to all the church services and wearing a cross (Matthew 7:23). If God was okay with homosexuality then He wouldn't have specifically otherwise that a man will leave his parents and go to his WIFE. It never said spouse, significant other or partner (Genesis 2:24, Mark 10:7). We cannot pick certain parts to listen to and forget the rest. When we die there will be multiple books open and one of them being the bible. So what happens if the part of the bible open is the very part you didn't want to listen to?

  68. Typical mellenial “Christian”. Guess this is what I should’ve expected. Pretty sure being gay is a sin, read Leviticus. And no ones born a degenerate. Dude there’s no such thing as a gay Christian, that’s a oxymoron if I ever heard one. You spreading a very false message, so sad. Dawg you legit convince yourself that degeneracy is compatible with Christianity, like how even? This is what happens when you get brainwashed with liberalism. You are a fool indeed.

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