EPIC Religious Debate Faith Vs Logic

EPIC Religious Debate Faith Vs Logic


I’m not going to lie — The world has been around for 6000 years? Do you believe that slavery slavery is OK? NO! Alright well we’ve just proven that and the Bible said it It says slavery is OK?? [unclear] – Morally – We’re not for slavery — yea – Leviticus yeah, stuff they don’t read, because there are to many words for sunday. I think it’s like 21, in Leviticus or 23? You can Google it all. Man, I’ve Googled it all, you can read it in all the translations. – I can, I’ll Read it. Do you really believe a man has
sex with another man he should be killed? Cause it says that in the bible. He should be killed? – It does say that. I don’t care I don’t care how creepy, uncomfortable stuff that you have going on that make you not down with this. I don’t want to talk about it. You don’t know that about your bible – It’s evidence to me — that you are brainwashed. – You don’t have to believe it if you don’t know it – Yeah – You don’t have to believe it if you don’t know it. If you don’t know it, then think about it. Do you think God gave you a brain? Use you fuking brain! man – I’m Sorry. – Yep, If there is something wrong in the bible, than I probably won’t believe it. Because I’d be like … – That’s what I’m doing. I would be like – WOW, if that’s wrong than …is this wrong? …. -Why believe it? If I told you that the core of Jupiter is filled with green monkeys you have no evidence – would you believe him until you prove him wrong? -Are you with it? I have no idea. You have no idea, but would you tell me it was right? Right here in front of cameras? I have no idea because – I’ve never been there. Is there a god? Absolutely! OK What’s the difference? Between what? You have no reason for either. It’s not about disapproving it – It’s about the fact that you have no idea. there are tons of things that you’ve never known about, one way or another, and you
choose one and it just happens to be one of the more offensive ones, based on the things that go along with it that you don’t know about. Um – if you want, there is a really good book called “The Case for the Creator” It’s about an atheist – he was an atheist before – His name is Lee Strobel he didn’t believe in you know I was actually going out and read and researched to try to disprove christianity He was like wanted to research and like figure it out. – Fake science – Pseudo science Sounds like you hit the wrong angle We don’t need him. We already told you. But read it again. I trust him information, I trust conversation I don’t deny any
information I listen to everybody and I use my brain just to figure out but when you look at math problem and
try to figure out if it’s right or wrong and you have a sense of that that’s what I’m doing, and every time I
listen to a religion it comes out wrong. like you saw 2 + 2=5 on a piece of paper and every time I was there somebody who follows reason and logical thinking and
identifies as an atheist, It seems to make sense like a puzzle does I would continue to put together a
puzzle and I had to jam all the pieces in there every time I got to a hard part. That’s how it is every time I listen to a
the religious – a religious thinker. And I’m not claiming to know that I know everything cause I don’t. Me neither, but you’re just making a little bit up that I haven’t made up. we’re going along on something that someone else made up. There’s an entire system of theology called the art and science biblical interpretations it’s called hermeneutics. It’s big words from the Greek word herrmannet hermanuetah which means to interpret and rightly understand. and basically Jesus fulfilled the law of
Moses and now we live under the law of christ. and that’s the teachings of the apostles. the teachings that are found in the teaching passages of the new testament So for instance you quoted first corinthians chapter 6 – yes Where it says thieves, the covertus, homosexual, revilers, all these other types of people they’ll not enter the kingdom of heaven it has nothing to do with stoning people.
to stone someone under the New Covenant somebody claimed to be a Christian a new covenant Let’s get rid of the stoning issue. Let’s say they went to an abortion clinic and they bombed an abortion clinic that person that did that that is totally inconsistent with what Jesus
taught in the New Testament – That’s murdering Jesus said love your enemies – exactly Pray for those who persecute you And the reason is Jesus raised the law to a higher standard so now what we do now the message of
the gospel is your cast down people You cast down arguments Let me give you an example, what we do, we try to reason this is a reason rally reasoning is valuable and what makes sense when we talk to each other, But the question is in a world where when you and I are just molecules in motion and everything is ultimately the end
product of time, chance and a natural processes How do you ground immaterial abstract concept known as reason? You assume that I have an obligation,
if you’re even gonna give me the time of day – dude you assume I need to make sense when I’m talking to you, but in a world where there is no God why am I obligated to be rational? – You are not obligated it’s just that you can’t expect me to take that in an intelligent way and
actually process it and there are some people like me in
these people in this crowd that decide that they’re not going to do things take on moral assumptions or live
certain actions unless they’ve intelligently processed it and
telling me that Jesus came in died for me is not something I can
intelligently process because I have no evidence of it and the fact
of the matter is objectively nobody has any evidence of it their private feelings that people retro
retroactively claim is evidence of the existence of god But I could claim them as the existence
of Jesus or of homosexuality As being the supreme way of life I can claim it as being anything but– How do you know that? How do I know what? How do you know that? How do you come to conclusions about reality? Well there’s a process a mathematical process that we call logic That’s been studied, can be studied, there is a lot of dispute, but mostly Mostly people agree And empiricism is the study
evidence which is commonly observed anything that can be commonly observed
private feelings that can’t be transmitted that people — things, things like
God exists, There is no common observation of that, that’s the reason why
we don’t believe schizophrenic people when they tell us about their friends Do you trust your senses and reasoning to determine whether something is true or not – right? Yes. As far as I’m following a mathematical process of logic. Sure. Did you sense that your senses were valid? Did I sense that they were valid? I experienced them directly it is observation. So you sensed that your senses were valid? I had no other choice! That’s viciously circular. It’s a logical fallacy No it’s not. You have not other choice. No no It’s the essence of proof That’s a misinterpretation of how fallacy works No, no, no What would you look like if you didn’t believe your senses were valid? How would you go about …anything? I know that I can justify my sense are valid without having to appeal to a logical fallacy to do it
because just hear me out – but to determine whether
observation is valid or not you got to use observation, your senses and your reasoning to determined
that your senses and your reasoning are valid – Only if there exists a counter example – a vicious circle Here me out for just a second – the reason I’m making that point is that the entire atheistic worldview is
built on logical fallacies and assumptions that can’t be justified. You see that when you begin with god
and you begin with a transcendent personal law giver that’s created you in his images and made your senses and your reasoning function. You made it up! – How is that anymore logical? You made it up! How do you validate that? – Because without it you can’t know anything. Let me give you an example. I can’t know anything – Just let me finish. – OK In a world withe there is no God, we’re all basically just molecules banging around. You mean this world? That’s right, In a world were there is no god, where we are just molecules banging around you can’t account for a immaterial abstract
laws in a world where there is no God because we are all just matter and motion. Can you hand me me the number one? absolutely not but it’s not — – no because it’s an immaterial concept that your world view can’t account for I can absolutely It’s a material concept- you are mis-understanding mathematics – can you give me a bucket 1?
– I can give you one umbrella it’s in your hand. No I’m not talking about the substantiation of 1 I’m talking about – It’s an adjective! i’m talking about the concept I’m not talking about the numeral — – Can you give me a blue? No because it’s an immaterial abstract – – So you don’t believe in blue? It’s an adjective It’s a linguistic concept. I don’t think that you understand logic. because you doing things like mixing
the order numbers in a subtraction problem and giving me the same answer. Right we we know that’s wrong. That’s what you’re doing linguistically. I’m not even about talking about that. I’m talking about the basic preconditions of intelligibility. What you’re telling me, is that I can’t make up my senses. and then you’re telling me the alternative is to make up god! My senses are here it’s simple observation it doesn’t
require a logical process you’re misunderstanding logical process is to conceive of these abstract values. Did you use reason to come to that logical process? If it doesn’t require a logical process? It’s not a logical process no I didn’t reason my senses. You didn’t reason your senses, I didn’t reason my senses. They are here in front of me. That’s not what you just said! You said that he does not require a logical
process To come to the conclusion that I’ll need a logical process to come to my senses, but understanding that my senses are valid — I don’t remember saying it nearly that many
times, but I’ll say it when I meant to say it if I didn’t — OK My senses require no logical process to observe. So how could you’re you’re putting those words in my
mouth when you construct the fallacy that is – it requires a logical process to establish logic. I establish logic through my senses which exist right before me. My senses are the only thing I have to
experience the world in the things that are happening, and from that implies
the entire system of logic. mathematics derives from
my ability to distinguish between the fact that you have two hands and one umbrella that’s because of my senses and it makes
perfect sense to me, Nothing doesn’t add up there. but when you start to tell me about God It doesn’t add up. I can’t observe one hand and two umbrellas and one God. It’s never been observable to me. I understand that, so you are saying that the only way know things is through our senses and our reason? The only way we can
know thing is through senses and reason. Yeah I think I’m with you on that. I wouldn’t put it in my FaceBook but I think it’s — So let me make sure I understand what you’re saying you’re saying that logic does not exist? Yeah I’m saying that. I’ll keep saying it man . – Let’s make sure we get this on camera. logic does not exist. Yeah logic does not physically exist
this guy been saying it over and over again No, no no You said logic does not exist then you qualified that physically I’ve admitted from day one that logic doesn’t physically exist. – OK I just think that we have an audience of people here who have faculties in the brain and I am appealing
more to the part of their brain understands
mathematics and process than you are when you speak. But you said you said the logic behind that
doesn’t exist, so how can they do that if logic doesn’t exist? I already answered that question, you can ask him for a copy of the tape. You actually did a double leg takedown on yourself. I didn’t do that and I don’t have anybody to impress. and I didn’t do that. My friend we got your videotapes saying logic doesn’t exist. We got you on videotape – We’ve got you on videotapes saying a lot of crazy stuff. So it will be fine. That may be true, and that fine, I’m OK with that I can repent, and that’s what you need to do. – That’s really awful. You have a world view that can make sense out of the very things … If I had a morality that depended on supernatural intervention for me to feel better about
things in my life I would consider myself a immoral person – Based on what standard? Based on the fact that I was able to create morality handle it on my own without believing that something was supernatural in that process. That’s just an excuse it’s a lie Somebody else made it better I okay what’s wrong with that? – You should make it better if you did it. It’s on you. But it’s not on me. I’m not god. No, It is on you, you are the one that did it. You see that’s exactly the problem This god I’ve never seen you are blaming him for things The concept that you
have to repent is to blame Is to ask god to take on to ask for his intervention because there is nothing you could really do about it. on left for America work for america and
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  1. He's saying you can't use your senses to prove your senses. Then how does he prove god? By reading the bible. How does he read the bible? Using his senses. So, if we can trust our senses, we can say we don't believe in god cuz we can't see him. If we can't trust our senses we can say we don't believe in god cuz the bible isn't proof.

  2. Anyone who blurts out the phrase "There's no God" automatically loses intellectual credibility and isn't worth arguing with or listening to. What the atheists fail to realize is that if someone doesn't believe in creation, then they don't believe in mathematics, or the laws of physics, or the laws of logic. For the universe to have came from absolutely nothing, it would need a cause. The universe can't pop into existence from absolutely nothing without something supernatural causing it. But according to atheists, it's natural for the universe to randomly pop into existence from absolutely nothing without anything causing it. In an atheist's mind, 0+0 can naturally equal 1 without the help of anything supernatural forcing it to equal 1. It's a fallacy for anyone to against the fact that it's literally, logically, and physically impossible for the universe to have came from absolutely nothing without a supernatural force causing it. So, if it's impossible for a creator or something supernatural to not exist, then what's the other possible, logical, inevitable answer without making yourself look like a stubborn, prideful moron? There is one.

  3. Something this Atheist needs to understand is that humans are programmed a certain way from since they were born to age 12. Therefore, mathematics and logic was ingrained in us through history. For example, using it for trade and rationing back then. So, imagine the first humans that didn’t know anything about mathematics and stuff we are taught in school, how do you think they operated. How would they disprove God. If humans went back into the beginnings of time they wouldn’t have mathematics to disprove God or Jesus because it is simply not in their thought process and they would have excuses to not believe in God

  4. The moon landing is fake (all space explorations are). The Mars rover is fake. Darwin's theory of evolution is fake: humans don't come from apes, we were always human. The Big Bang theory is fake. 90% of our dating methods suggests that the earth is really less than 10,000 years old. Don't let the wicked people who create these pagan practices hide God from you! God's existence can be proven empirically and philosophically; the universe didn't create itself from nothing, instead, God created the universe and everything in it, including time itself, and He isn't subject to time either (trying to imagine a place where time doesn't exist is like trying to imagine a color you never seen before). Please, guys, if you're looking for the truth, read the Christian Bible, it's historically and scientifically accurate (the chances of it being fake are astronomically impossible); the truth of the world and history (His Story) are in it. We're not just a cosmic accident, but we have a spirit and that spirit continues to exist in another realm/dimension when we pass on. Our human bodies are imprisonments because of Adam's sin which caused the fall of man.

    No man is good and we're all doomed for hell. God's divinity is eternal, all-good, all-loving, all-knowing, all-powerful, and all-perfect. Being an all-good God, He's an extremely just judge, and won't let a single sin into his kingdom. We have all sinned by breaking one of God's ten commandments at some point in our life, and that means we will be punished by God's eternal destruction (hell). No matter how much "good" we think we are doing, doesn't matter because we've sinned (no matter what sin), which means we're not good. We're handing God a filthy rag by believing that we are good and worthy to enter his kingdom by doing "good deeds" for Him. God is very angry with us, but He still loves us. That's we He sent His one and only Son, Jesus, to die for humanity's sins so that we have a chance at eternal life because that's just how all-loving He is. He'll wipe us clean of our sins if we accept his gift of forgiveness by believing that His Son, Jesus Christ, paid the ultimate dept by sacrificing Himself for humanity's sins. Believing in Jesus is not idolatry because we're not told to worship Him, but we worship God's deity and God's deity inside of Jesus. John 3:16 says "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life." I can't stress this enough: the devil gets busy once you start believing, don't let him or anyone destroy your faith! Matthew 24:24 says "For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect."

  5. "I believe in my senses and my senses tell me God doesn't exist"-atheist
    Well mine and 4 other billion christians' senses tell us that God is real so..??

  6. No amount of human wisdom can be able to contend the word of God which is living. Jesus is the way the truth and the life period believe it or not. you seek for proof but God already provided you proof by giving his beloved, repent and turn to Christ

  7. There's a reason Christianity is a religion along with the other hundreds of religions look at Earth, look how humans are treating it? You really think such an ignorant race of beings would know the secrets of the universe and existence? Even if the stuff in the bible did happen it's 100% possible that Jesus Christ was an extremely advanced extraterrestrial being who performed miracles way out of our levels of comprehension and understanding of reality. The universe is incomprehensible. Existence itself is incomprehensible. Christians are attempting to explain the origin of existence by relating ideas and beliefs they hold to create a familiarised God. Here's a good idea, end all religion because religion and money are the reason wars happen and why there's so much conflict in the world. Stop trying to explain the unexplainable and just accept life for how it is, just live your life without asking questions and the secrets of existence will eventually come to you. Religions are made out of boredom, and the desire to create an explanation for something. Our attention span is less than that of a goldfish and guess what, despite our instincts not everything needs to be or should be explained. Focus on the problems and shit that is going on in society and on earth right now instead of creating more problems. Religion is a joke, a joke that went too far a desperate attempt to explain your existence.

  8. 10,000 gods in the last 10,000 years… 4,200 current religions in the world… 700,000,000 people killed in the name of religion… 1 sad story

  9. The athiests don't understand the context of Leviticus. Yes during that time thousands of years ago, for the Jews, in Israel only. Laws against adultery, homosexuality, eating unclean foods etc – were essential for the preservation of the Israelites while foreign pagan and phillestine armies were constantly trying to destroy them. The new testament does away with stoning adulterers and homosexuals through grace and forgiveness in Jesus. Jesus, who was God in the flesh, let the sexually immoral woman go free when everyone wanted to stone her.

  10. These ATHEISTS have absolutely no clue what they're talking about and they think that Christians are against science LOL
    TONS OF LOGICAL FALLACIES TOO

  11. I'm just gonna say even if God was real… I disagree with him. It's less about the fact that I don't believe in god, but even if you proved to me that your god exists… I'd rather go to hell then go to heaven and have my free will and personality taken from me.

  12. Poor little sod. He’s been fed pure biblical bullshit for the whole of his life and only knows how to regurgitate the shit he’s been fed. He needs help to see reality. But the stupid, intolerant cunt with sunglasses on his head need a good punch.

  13. I’m actually rather shocked at watching this. All I see is a bunch of bullies who are trying to convince one kid that his views are trash when in reality, then have ZERO evidence for the contrary. I know the answers to the questions they are asking. In fact, it’s not that hard when you put it into the right context. What they don’t realize is honestly rather shocking…..however they don’t want to know the answers. It seems they just want to push their close minded views on innocent people with no answers smh…

  14. I didn't actually watch this past the first minute, it's intellectually dishonest not to mention sleazy, for these twenty-somethings to be attacking this kid in this way. Yeah there's nothing quite like piling on some kid to make you feel knowledgeable and Vindicated. Let's face it, that's what this is all about. they didn't care to change the kid's mind. They weren't going to change their minds. this was nothing more than intellectual mugging! Perpetrated in the spirit of boosting these lame asses egos. If taking candy from babies is your thing,( and judging by the comments it is for most of you) then go ahead and give this a thumbs up. But if you're like me and you believe people should be civil in their discourse despite what they believe then give this video a big thumbs down! Just one more thing to be noted here and I only watched the first minute while they were bombarding him and telling him that's the Bible endorses slavery he asked "where does it say that" they stumbled over it and eventually gave an answer that maybe… '''it was in Leviticus ahhhh 21… 31 don't know… I Googled the whole thing… we don't know." LOL. All he had to do to turn the tables was to say "show me the actual evidence that you have for your argument" of course all they had to do was remember the book chapter and verse But of course they didn't bother. In light of their strongly-held and passionate anti biblical beliefs, one would think that they had thought enough about it to remember this trivial line of evidence. The truth is these guys are liars. they did not read or Google the whole thing, LOL I tell you this if you want to see dysfunctional debate then go visit your local college campus where the logical fallacies flow like cheap beer! Remember people if anybody ever tries to steamroll you just ask them how they know what they know and for every assertion ask for evidence for the veracity of that assertion. It's like a can of jerk off to keep the Pricks at bay. I hope this kid keeps his faith. He is perfectly justified and rational to continue in his beliefs since he has not been presented with a defeater for those beliefs. on the other hand he would be irrational to abandon his long-held beliefs based on what these ass clowns say.

  15. Frankie Frankie Frankie. After reading through your comments, it has become obvious to me that your faulty reasoning, lack of philosophical depth, lack of historical knowledge, lack of logically valid arguments for your assertions, and the out of frame picture of your forehead next to your name. Leaves any rational person with only one possible inference… You are a primitive person!

  16. 200 years ago religion may have been a dubious necessity. But since 1859 the book by Darwin "The Origion of Species by means of narural selection" has made religion a nasty relic of the past whose only purpose is to separate weakminded foolish people from their money. Period.

  17. The flavians wrote the bibble in order to control the jews instead of spending money on paying soldiers to subjugate the people brilliant tactics and to this date still works.

  18. I am an anti theist. Beyond atheist, I believe theism is destructive to human psyche.

    I get disgusted by the antagonistic approach by fellow atheists toward Christians. We have to speak to them about these fairy tales in an empathetic manner

  19. Many people think  they have to have proof for something to be true. In the bible it says to have faith and believe in God which nobody saw. People can say those accounts of God speaking to His children in the bibke is false too. That all those people were was liars and crazy people. The bible is manmade of happenings of fairy tales. But I am telling you now as I pray for the covering of the blood of Jesus, God IS real. Heaven IS real. We were all created from tbe great I Am! My very real experience is not for the faint in heart or unbeliever of the supernatural (which was all created by our Father in heaven). One morning at work I had been listening to my audible King James Version bible. I was praising the Lord and thanking him. I had started to do some cleaning and afterward I sat down for a moment. All of the sudden the floor started to have a low vibrate. I thought maybe it was semi passing by at that moment. Then the low vibration turned in a fierce quake under my feet. Then a loud sound of thunder and lightening entered my head. I covered my ears like that would have helped…it did not. Then I heard a voice say, " Stand up!" So I did. At that moment, as I stood, my body was faced to the window. The first glance I took out of the window, was a women. I knew this woman. I worked with this woman. I knew her by name. That voice says very audibly, "she is a witch."
    By that time I had been trembling and shaking uncontrollably. I was having a hard time breathing so I walked over to the closest window, opened it, and began gasping for air. All the while coughing up "something" that never became visible to my eye. As I managed labored breath I raised my hands to heavrn and began praising God and thanking Him. I was still trembling and very disoriented. I drank several bottles of water and called my husband (boyfriend at the time). He had to complete my paperwork for me. He explains to people he had NEVER saw me like that and there was definitely something going on.
    Shortly after that experience I recieved two visitors in my place of work at two different times. The first, was a woman. I felt her spiritually, before I saw her physically. When she walked in the door my back was turned. I immediately felt sick to my stomach. I was almost doubled over, then I said, "not today satan, in the name of Jesus i pray for the armor of God!" When she left, the feeling was gone. Im not even going to get in what this woman looked like.
    The very next day, a very well dressed man came in. As he got closer I saw the pentagram and demon tattoos on his hand. I told him to have a blessed day. He said condesendently, " you must be a Christian." I told him, "I dont like the word Christian, because nobody can be Christlike. However, I am a believer in God of the Holy bible."
    The last man, I almost forgot about. He showed up a little after the well dressed man. He was a gentleman who pulled up in the parking lot and just sat there. Never came in or anything. After awhile I started to be on guard of this. I called someone to sit with me and I just prayed. As soon as I called the cops, within 5 minutes the guy pulled off. I dont believe that was a coincidence at all. He sat there for over 2 hours and as soon as I had enough, called the cops, within the next 5 minutes he was gone? Come on..
    I really feel that the 4 people mentioned in this story were witches and their spirits communed with one another. The lady I worked with was quite quirky, but I never had problems with her or felt anything bad from her before this day. It was everybody else telling me something was not quite right about her. This was a woman who was known to attend a Christian church at times. She had two daughters and a husband. I believe the Lord shown mercy on me to see what was going on around me and to keep my armour of God enforced. ( I heard that is good to do every 24 hrs.)I believe I was attacked and there was battle going on right at that moment. I believe the Holy Spirit came down for guidance and knowledge. I believe there is a spiritual world, with bad and good spirits,  one can experience (just one time or many times it depends).
    Thank you for reading until the end. May God bless you . May you come closer to Him and may our Lord protect you from all the world.

  20. U.S. bill of rights: congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. Or prohibit the free exercise thereof or freedom of speech, or of the press,or the right of the people peaceably to assemble.

  21. Everything that they are saying is in the OLD testament. Christ set the new covenant through his blood on the cross. But the one dude that came in is absolutely right.

  22. The title ("Reason Rally") is so laughable, that it's begging for Monty Python to lampoon it in the derisive and scathing way it so deserves to be. The title is so blatantly ridiculous because it sadly reveals the shameful "bottom of the barrel" levels that MANY (devoutly faithful and rabid) atheists ( -e.g the pompous Richard Dawkins) will stoop to – in a DESPERATE and futile bid to give their false and bogus religion a superficial veneer of intellectual respectability.
    The especially conceited, pretentious, disingenuous, dishonest and rebelliously stubborn atheists are attracted to this rally, because it's a way for them to vainly (egotistically) virtue signal their purported superior intelligence.
    They are like proud peacocks (or as they say in Texas – "All hat and no cattle"). The atheistic main protagonist in this video does not even confess his own self-evident fallacy, that he commits.
    I.e his blind and unquestioning faith in the self-refuting and preposterous idea that "empiricism" and "reason" can exist in an universe without God.
    That atheist sadly has "his feet firmly planted in quicksand" because he has to assume a miracle (something that such atheists deny), because (if there is no God) it is utterly impossible for "reason" or "empiricism" to have any foundations – whatsoever.
    Which is why such atheists are instead in rebellion against TRUE reason.

  23. Hey Jesus is still alive and loves YOU! Can't wait for anyone who gives there life to Him, seriously it is the best and the number one decision that will ever matter in your life. Might not make sense to you right now but one day it just might and I'll pray for anyone wants to know more! If you got questions, HMU! Anyways, peace out!

  24. Ha even Darwin refuted his science being a lie on document. If we come from fish and we are just atoms bouncing around in time what makes tape or murder wrong? A. God does. Jeremiah 31:33 for He will be in all our hearts. Our way of having morals, loving caring, for we are all made in His image. If this weren't so we would be animals. Think about it. I work in a lab with media plates and bacteria and last I checked that bacteria is NOT turning into fish or any other species and it doesn't speak or think. Who put in is what is morally wong???JESUS DID. LOOK up lamminin the adhesive molecule that holds our skin together…its a cross.
    Colossians 1:17– for he is in all things and HE HOLDS ALL THINGS TOGETHER…you dont see because you dont want to and dont hear because you dont want to. Jesus spoke the truth against our sinful nature which is why He came to die for us, we were blind but He showed us truth. He brought forth the saying " the truth hurts, dont it" which is why most deny Him. Ppl dont want to be told the truth. Including myself. But from my world view I can repent and come to Jesus. You can to and I Hope you do. Ask him into your heart. Ask him to lead you to truth. If have a hunger for knowledge for reals, read the bible without bias and I guarantee it will change you. Even if you dont believe yet just read and APPLY his teachings and you will see, TRUELY SEE.

  25. You weren’t made in God’s image, your parents’ DNA created you and your look, don’t go along with that cultist bullshit

  26. Poor kid. Don't gang bang him like that he's just brainwashed. He seems like he's already in doubt. Let his own brain works the rest.

  27. This sort of debate is a waste of time. In one hand a person says he cannot believe in what he cannot see and on the other side another person cannot show what he believes in. One cannot see radio waves but he knows it exists…he will answer, but I can tune my radio and prove its existence. Then tune your spiritbeing and you will see God. God is a personal experience.

  28. Moral of the story: know what you believe in so that, should this situation arise, you can defend your point.

  29. Grown bearded men picking on 13 year old kids. Good to know atheists finally are picking fights with people on their level.
    Segers set them straight.

  30. Ambushing a kid who isn't knowledgeable enough to defend himself yet.
    How atheist of atheists.
    Things changed thou.

  31. How pathetic, a bunch of older kids picking on youngsters, going with ooooold arguments about the old testament, easily refuted from a biblical standpoint, while not even being able to quote the scriptures to support their arguments. Total fail.

  32. Why is this grown man acting like a kid and debating with kids. Dude pick on someone your age and scale of debate … this is how its become.. they cant tell these says if someone is a woman or man… now they cant tell what age their debating as liberal atheists… this is what happens when atheism rules. You get grown men debating young kids lol. Hmu if yall want to debate someone who knows

  33. This atheist is so logically wrong its unbelievable that people here actually think he makes sense.

    To break down the inaccuracies of the student:

    -> Inaccuracy 1:Senses is logical way to know reality your senses can be easily fooled and your senses cannot perceive fundamental underlying concepts that our reality is built upon. Can you utilise your sense to prove an atom is real or not or that mathematical concepts that have been proven to work exist?

    -> Inaccuracy 2: Science or Math is the logical way to perceive our reality. This point already contradicts the point about Senses because Scientific and Mathematical concepts are essentially abstract ideas about our reality and they cannot be perceived by humans (try to utilize your senses to prove Quantum theories). Science is not an adequate way to perceive reality as science utilizes inductive reasoning whilst also being in constant conflict with itself.

    To graft an understanding of what I'm saying I will put it to you simply like this: Scientists hundreds of years ago believed that our planet was the center of reality to the extent scientists would rationalize many abnormalities in their theory to fit there model of the universe (take a look at how messed up the Copernicus model became when they tried to rationalize how the earth is the center of the universe). Comprehend that at the time Copernicus model was believed by almost everyone with few questioning it – now was science at that time a good explanation of our reality? Science constantly argues with itself whether something is true or not and because of that belief in science is akin to being a fundamentalist in a religion.

    As im writing this I am finding more inaccuracies like Logic isnt require for observation or that our reality can simply be comprehended with our senses…

    The only smart guy here was that kid in the beginning who admitted that he doesn't know everything and his willing to learn and make up his own mind – the other two are two indoctrinated fools who believe there illogical arguments are correct.

  34. To be honest… their video title is a joke ( I mean every word.) It's not logical for me to believe in Evolution, I guess i just don't have enough faith! hahahha

  35. Atheist: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 "that's how we get to 5"
    Christian: 1, 2, 10, 8, 3, €, 4, 7, 6, 5 "that's how we get to 5"

    Kids: woah… the Christian sounds impressive.

  36. Yea. This is good spare the next generations the poisonous lies of Christianity and any other Abrahamic religion for that matter.

  37. https://link.medium.com/XzsIoMjknW  Interesting article on why prayer doesn't work and how it actually contradicts religions fundamental tenets, food for thought.

  38. Why do you believe in your particular brand of super friend (god) rather than all of the others: Buddha, Allah, Jupiter, Ra, Poseidon, Apollo, Aphrodite, Juno etc etc….
    All gods are a fiction to provide a safety net because man is afraid of dying.
    'Oh believe in me and you will not die, you will live forever in my (impossibly large) house, all you have to do is………
    What if you have chosen the wrong god?
    What happens upon your death then?
    Why do people still believe in this arcane tripe?

  39. If we only understood things through our senses we would have never figured out all the different spectrums of light we can't see, we would never have figured out frequencies or radio signals we counldnt hear, the fact that DNA is so complex it is computer code for all organic building on our planet is enough for me this is all not an accident there are things we sometimes can't see or hear or feel that are part of the life around us, even when people saw Jesus they denied him, they claimed he was a magician, he was not like them therefore he must not be from God or of God, people will always deny Jesus but he does not deny them it will be your choice for your soul in eternity choose wisely because this life will fly by in the blink of an eye compared to eternity.

  40. Our minds cannot think about death so we don't know what happens afterwards but to say that its the christian god or allah that exists is wrong because there is no proof of those gods. Same goes with odin and zeus. Maybe you where praying to the wrong god this whole time and youre making the real one more angry. I don't see how ppl can believe in books that were passed down from history its all fake of course ppl are gonna switch things up. The faith you have blinds you from logical thinking.

  41. You have no idea whatcha talking about kid. You're just repeating what you've been tought stupid. And that's what it's all about religion.

  42. this dude is amazing , he is sharing his faith and i already knnow that hes going to heaven. Blessed are those who believe without seeing

  43. 8.47. I wanted to see where the theist was going before they edited that out. Seems like some intellectually insecure kids looking to boost their self esteem by using objective tools to refute a stranger's subjective experience.

  44. I always feel smarter after listening to unintelligent xtians….guess i could have left out the unintelligent.

  45. Repent, why? Is gods judgment not good enough? If god were the embodiment of all that is good, logicaly it would follow that i need not give my life to christ.

    Poor child has no idea hes being played.

  46. There is so many fallacies and contradictions in the bible, so then how can it be the absolute truth or even the authority of all other religions?

  47. People can believe whatever the fuck they want!😒🙄 Leave him alone! If u don’t agree, fuck it. Go about your life!

  48. Wow. If your going to be an atheist at least be intellectually honest about your position. The theist absolutely destroyed this guy with logic and all the atheist could do is mention math and his senses to prove what is ,what is not real. I guess this guy has never heard of how many ways our senses can deceive us. Someone that appeals to the senses to prove logic or what is or isn’t real is not worth anyone’s time debating. Infact he is more delusional than the average atheist.

    “Supposing there was no intelligence behind the universe, no creative mind. In that case, nobody designed my brain for the purpose of thinking. It is merely that when the atoms inside my skull happen, for physical or chemical reasons, to arrange themselves in a certain way, this gives me, as a by-product, the sensation I call thought. But, if so, how can I trust my own thinking to be true? It’s like upsetting a milk jug and hoping that the way it splashes itself will give you a map of London. But if I can’t trust my own thinking, of course I can’t trust the arguments leading to Atheism, and therefore have no reason to be an Atheist, or anything else. Unless I believe in God, I cannot believe in thought: so I can never use thought to disbelieve in God.” Lewis.

  49. Wrong title.
    ,,Atheist vs Logic" should be title.
    Stop attacking us Christians about God's law in the Old Testament, because God was dealing with a primitive humanity! Practical law of stoning and keeping Sabath was fullfiled with Jesus's life, death and resurrection! Moral law is still the same (for example, adultery is still a sin, murder is a sin.)
    Stop using biblical ,,barbarism" to attack us! You think that if God said ,,Don't take slaves." Jews would listen to Him? Of course no, that is why He instead gave them rights, and God's law was most moral law on the face of the Earth! And still is!

  50. I'm aware of all the arguments against God and understand the frustration with it. I just personally choose to believe in it because it indeed makes me feel better. I don't even consider myself a Christian. I'm just someone who believes in God from the shadows. I don't do the church thing and I'm not biased against homosexuals or anyone who goes against the status quo of Christianity.

  51. It's hardly fair picking on this young theist. After all, he is just regurgitating the dogma that's been shoved down his throat since he was born. But that's what he gets by trying to break up an atheist rally.

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